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all men are created equal. >> talk is cheap. >> 1 in 6 americans is poorer today. >> i'm not concerned about the very poor. we have a safety net there. >> you've got this jobs report. >> it's stronger than expected. >> this is 1976 meets 2000 meets 2004. >> i say what i mean and mean what i say. >> that's exactly what i said, and i stand by whatever i said, whatever it was. >> people should know about mitt romney at this point. >> talk is cheap 679 >> nothing i've said in the past should be any indication of my positions in the future. >> good afternoon. i'm alex wagner in for lawrence o'donnell. with just two days till the election, the candidates each campaigned in four battleground
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states as republicans expressed concern that chris christie has elevated president obama's chances of re-election. the race is in a statistical tie. president obama at 48%, mitt romney at 47%. here is president obama in new hampshire. >> our fight goes on because we know this nation can't succeed without a growing, thriving middle class. our fight goes on because america has always done best when everybody gets a fair shot and everybody is doing their fair share and everybody is playing by the same rules. that's why you elected bill clinton in '92 and why you elected me in 2008 and why i'm running for a second term as president of the united states. >> mitt romney campaigned today in iowa, ohio, pennsylvania and virginia. here he is moments ago in cleveland.
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>> now, on tuesday, the choice to the american people can lead to one of two very different destinations. if the president were to be re-elected -- >> no! >> it's possible, but not likely. if he were to be re-elected, he will still be unable to work with people in congress. >> the latest polling of likely voters in the crucial battleground states shows a
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slight edge for president obama. in ohio, a "columbus dispatch" poll has president obama at 50% and mitt romney at 48%. in pennsylvania, a ppp poll has president obama at 52% and mitt romney at 46%. in wisconsin, president obama at 51% and mitt romney at 48%. in iowa, president obama at 47% and mitt romney at 42%. as of this afternoon, nate silver of "the new york times" 538 blog forecasts on november 6, president obama has an 85% chance of re-election and president obama will win 307 electoral votes and mitt romney 231. earlier today, chris matthews sat down for an exclusive with vice president joe biden. >> what do you think is going to happen? >> i think we're going to win.
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i don't think it's going to be close in the electoral college. i think we're going to win clearly and i think we're going to win this state, ohio. i've been in here 23, 24 days, we're going to win iowa, wisconsin, nevada, new hampshire. i think we've got an even chance of winning virginia and florida. so it could be a big win. don't just vote. bring your mom, your dad, cousin, knock on the door of your neighbor. let me tell you something, the middle class depends on it. >> joining me from the battleground state of ohio is our own national treasure, chris matthews. it's always great to see you. congratulations on the interviews. how much of that confidence is genuine and how much is spin in the homestretch? >> he felt confident when i talked to him off camera. of course, north carolina, new
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hampshire and colorado are up in the air. he said virginia and florida would be tough, as well. did you notice the discordance on the right wing of getting along with the other side? on the one hand, the romney is saying we should get along with the other side saying he could work with a republican congress. of course he can, he's a republican. then you have rupert murdoch trashing the governor of new jersey for the same thing, working with the other side. the times of london endorsed obama, so what's going on with rupert murdoch in this thing? >> i've been shocked how much the christie -- the photos of christie and obama has shaken
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the republican party. he says look, i think you should be able to compliment the president of the united states when he does a good job. are you surprised that the republicans have been so transparent how shaken they've been by chris christie? >> somebody in the romney camp is so angry at governor christie that they're leaking out the word that the reason he worked on hurricane relief with the president, as if he needed some other motive, is because he was jilted in a marital sense from the vice presidency he had almost been promised and he was left at the altar and they went with ryan. so they're trying to trash his motives here. somebody in the romney camp must have the okay to do that, which means they're looking for a scapegoat if they lose. or they say they can take some
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of the gleam off of this good working relationship between the governor and the president. but they're up to something, putting out that trash talk about this cooperation which they say romney will engage in if elected. is bipartisan good or something to be trashed? >> apparently bipartisanship is good if it serves your own purposes. i think it speaks to a certain desperation, as does the jeep ad they've started running in ohio. let's take another listen to more of your interview with vice president joe biden. >> what do you make of this republican ad that's been out there running for romney saying that chrysler is going to take jeep out of the state and send those jobs to china? >> it's playing on the fears of people and flat false. the most cynical play i've seep, and there is an editorial in the denver post saying this goes to
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character. >> if that is a hail mary pass on the romney campaign, it seems not to have worked. you have auto executives coming out saying that's a lie. >> they made a calculation in the romney campaign saying you have more power in the advertising, meaning if you can play it enough times, it doesn't matter whether or not the fact checkers call it, because what gets ahead of the fact checking is the ad. >> but chris, maybe i'm just naive about this -- >> no, you're not. >> i feel like sit a real underestimation of the american public that you can put this out there, people are going to march in line over the edge.
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it is a crass estimation of the american voter. >> i think there are a couple of these out there. two of these out there now are republican. that ad, which says they're moving the jeep jobs to china and the ad that keeps saying the welfare program under this president has been weakened because they removed the work requirement, which is not true at all. they do that obviously to agitate white working voters. so that's what they're trying to do by getting people angry at obama. i really do believe that the managers go to the candidates and say look, the trends are against you, sir. if you don't run this ad, you're going to lose. and the candidate says okay, let's run the ad. >> if you're talking about dealing from the bottom of the deck, we've seen the romney campaign take things out of
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context. but romney has seized on this saying voting is the best revenge. this is mitt romney today brings that back up. >> in his closing arguments, president obama asked his supporters to vote for revenge. for revenge. instead, i ask the american people to vote for love of country. >> chris, does anybody buy that -- >> where did that line come from? >> effectively, the president said -- the president has been doing this thing, he'll talk about romney and people will boo. he says don't boo, vote. at one rally, he said voting is the best revenge.
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if we're talking about tactics that show a -- >> i've got to be careful, but this might fit with running robocalls with donald trump. having sununu as your chief surrogate. there's been a bad side to the romney campaign. he can talk sweetly about bipartisanship, but mind the curtains, he's got -- he's donald trump's best friend. he's putting people out there like sununu to talk the dirty talk. they haven't once pushed back from it. it's always been the undercutting of this campaign. this talk about revenge is to scare people. you know what it is. we thought we got past it. it's there. >> it's a shame that's part of the closing argument that romney is making. chris matthews, we will have
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more of his interview coming up at 5:00 p.m. chris, thank you as always. >> thanks for having me on. coming up, the last of the ground game, who is where and why. former dnc chair howard dean joins me. and the clinton effect on the 2012 race. the best friend a democrat could have this year. that's coming up next. st time something made your jaw drop? campbell's has 24 new soups that will make it drop over, and over again. ♪ from jammin' jerk chicken, to creamy gouda bisque. see what's new from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. customer erin swenson sbought so, i'm happy. today.s. sales go up... i'm happy. it went out today... i'm happy. what if she's not home? (together) she won't be happy.
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the last hours of the ground game. former dnc chair howard dean joins me with a look at the push to get every last likely voter excited enough to vote. and later, we head to the senate races where the ball lapse of power is at stake, and so is a balance of crazy. that's coming up. we saw that last tide commercial
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our destiny is in the hands of the people who will be making up this election. so two more days. >> ultimately, it's up to you. you have the power. and if you're willing to work with me, if you're willing to stand with me, if you're willing to knock on some doors with me, if you're willing to make some phone calls with me, if you're willing to turn out for me, we'll win new hampshire, we'll win this election, we'll finish what we started. we'll renew those bonds that do not break and reaffirm the spirit that makes the united states of america the greatest
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nation on earth. >> president obama's re-election campaign is in full throttle in the battleground states where they opened up more than 5,000 get out the vote staging locations. >> in the all-important battleground state of ohio, the obama re-election campaign has 137 field offices, compared with 40 for mitt romney. politico's maggie haverman says --
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>> joining me now is howard dean, former chairman of the democratic national convention and former governor of vermont. thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me on. i particularly like, you have the power that the president talked about. that was from 2004. >> indeed, indeed. governor dean, let's talk about the ground game here. there's been a lot of analysis in the months and days leading up to this. in terms of number of field offices, i mentioned 125 to 40 in terms of offices in ohio, the obama campaign says they've reached 125 million people, and reported that the romney campaign has only reached 50 million. that seems to be a
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disproportionate disadvantage. >> nobody has ever done this better than the obama campaign and their game is even better than it was in 2008. so i expect we're going to win. i think we're going to win iowa and ohio. >> let's listen to what john boehner, from ohio, said today. he gave his prediction on fox news this morning. >> forget everything that's been said about the obama ground game. the romney ground game is bigger and more sophisticated than anything i've ever seen. polls don't decide elections, voters do. >> just to be clear, you're guaranteeing a victory for mitt romney in ohio? >> no question in my mind. >> the speaker seems to be saying the romney campaign is incredibly sophisticated, even more so than the obama campaign and says we have enthusiasm on our side. i think it's one or the other.
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but in terms of the enthusiasm question, what do you make of it? is it really momentum? >> i don't think it's real momentum. the other thing he didn't mention that they have in florida and ohio is the secretary of state is on their side, who happens to be a very partisan individual. that could be a problem, because we're very, very anxious about an honest voting process. they have done everything they can to discourage voting. it has to be a fair election. we've got to be sure it that's a fair election. we're going to be very aware of that. but people have really gotten excited about this president. the president himself has gotten more excited, which i always like to see.
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and the third piece about this is the republicans have made some major missteps. it's almost impossible to figure out what mitt romney stands for. that's really not -- you can't win the presidency that way. >> to that point, in terms of the great wall of -- paul ryan did nearly 125 interviews with local television affiliates but no local tv since october 8 when this interview in michigan ended abruptly. >> the best thing to help prevent violent crime in inner cities is to bring jobs there, teach people good character and discipline. that's what churches do and --
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>> and you do all that by cutting taxes? >> those are yours, not mine. >> thank you very much, sir. >> that was kind of strange. puts words into people's mouth? >> unmiked and that was the last we heard from paul ryan. and mitt romney hasn't done an interview in 23, 24 days. is that usual for someone running for the highest office in the land? >> no. the reason they're doing that is because they get tough questions and they don't want to answer tough questions. ryan can't because he's a true right wing conservative and the president and his people are trying to position romney differently and ryan is not going to do that. ryan's view on abortion is the same as richard murdoch and todd akin. they co-sponsored one of the
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anti-women bills. he can't stand up to that kind of independent questioning because clearly he doesn't seem to be any place. >> it is rather shocking that when given a multiple choice test, they throw away the pencil. >> the greatest quote ant this is ted kennedy versus mitt romney in 1994 in the debate, when kennedy said i'm the pro choice candidate, mitt romney is the multiple choice candidate. >> he nailed it. that is a clip that should be on loop. thank you for joining me this evening. >> thanks for having me on. coming up, the fight for control over the senate. who is likely to hold on and who has absolutely no chance at all. and where does that missouri race stand right now?
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former president bill clinton is making nearly as many stops as president barack obama this weekend. his effect on the 2012 race and why he still matters. but first, the balance of power and the senate races. what changes and what stays the same after tuesday night? that's next.
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the democrats hold a 53-47 majority and for most of 2012, the map favored the republicans. they had fewer seats to defend than the democrats, they were in a better position in the seats they were defending and a number of vulnerable democratic seats. but two days before the election, the democrats are in position to hold their majority, thanks in part to two conservative candidates that made rape an issue. in indiana, a new poll shows the democratic congressman joe donally with an 11-point lead over richard murdoch. in that poll, murdoch is being dragged down by a 49% unfavorable rating when he said, "pregnancies from rape are something that god intended to happen."
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and akin's unfavorable rating is 56%. he said would could not become pregnant from a rape. he said, if it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to shut that whole thing down. the democratic firewall could get a boost in massachusetts. in perhaps the hottest senate race of 2012, republican senator scott brown now trails elizabeth warren. a new western new england university poll shows warren leading brown by four points, 50% to 46% in massachusetts. joining me now, joy, in terms of the murdoch and akin races, they can't help but stepping in it and now it seems like the chickens are coming home to
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roost. >> absolutely. thanks to something called crazy, democrats will hold on to the senate. the thing about it is, it's ripped the veil off of something that i think a lot of the younger women, a lot of democrats didn't know or want to think about, you have a hard core religious conservative element within the republican party that believes women shouldn't be making decisions about their health care. >> and that women should be dragged around by their hair and so forth. >> indeed. i'm predicting that mccastle will do better. a lot of republican women, i have a feeling some will turn. >> the departure of senior
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republican leadership happened very quickly. and yet it seemed like akin has gotten a $2 million infusion into his campaign, partly from donations, part of it may be from republican leadership that is terrified they're going to lose seats. they just kind of started saying -- what do you make of that? >> it's a good way of putting it, it was his to lose, because then he went out and did lose it. the same thing is true with murdoch. that was his race to lose. that was in the "r" column. that was his to lose, and bam, he went out and he lost it. but we talked about this before.
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national republicans and national democrats are amoral when it comes to who they're going to support. their primary driver is they want somebody who can win. so with just a couple days left, the inclination is to get behind them and it looks like national republicans did put some money into the akin race. >> joy, we find 2010 in the midterms, the republicans were running these extremist candidates, people that did not have a chance on the national stage, yet they seem to have not learned their lesson. these are two examples of you take these fringe candidates, they're not going to win. >> i think if you listen to the noise on the right, there's always been this sense if we can just stop running these wishy washy rhinos, we could win. the closed loop is so sealed on the right, i don't think there's
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a self-awareness. there was a clammer to get these pure conservative candidates on the ballot and it came from the tea party. so the tea party was a blessing and curse for the republicans. it energized older voters, who didn't like barack obama. but the down side to the tea party is they are insisting what they see as conservative candidates and are married to the religious right. these guys like murdoch didn't lose any support from the religious right. >> arizona has been really interesting. this is a seat the republicans have held for two decades and there's a chance the democratic challenger could take that away and in some part that's due to the fact that the language around immigration has been so divisive.
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here you have a democratic candidate who at one time served george w. bush, but is a safe haven for latinos. >> he does have a decent chance there. for those very reasons, despite how far right arizona is, it stays as a deep red state because the latino population is growing and the tea party opposition to those folks is so strident that it's not going to moderate itself. that's the big problem that the kind of gop establishment has with the tea party. the tea party they often don't care if they lose. they would rather die trying. they would rather put an akin or murdoch or christine o'donnell
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in there. they would rather put that up and go down, whereas the gop establishment is like no, let's put up moderates that can win. even though when the gop establishment did win in wisconsin, tommy thomson is now getting hammered. >> especially given the fact that scott walker has quite the infrastructure in wisconsin. the question is, joy, when it's all said and done, if they lose these seats, will they say it is time to purge these radical elements from our party? >> i think it won't happen. the radical elements are calling the shots. all of the money that we've seen come into politics after citizens united, most has gone to enforce strict party discipline on the republicans. the people most afraid of the tea party are people like john boehner.
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the base is so dependent on getting those people excited, they're not going anywhere. >> joy reed and ryan grim, thank you for joining me tonight. if you want more, i will be dorking out and following the senate races on election night starting at 6:00 p.m. with rachel, chris, lawrence, ed and al tuesday night. coming up, the bill clinton effect on the 2012 race. especially in the final sprint. and what the lily ledbetter act and a sound bite from 2007 can tell you about mitt romney. . sleek new styling... sophisticated dual cockpit design, and sport sculpted seats. available chevrolet mylink infotainment system. the all-new 2013 chevrolet malibu.
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the relationship between president obama and former president bill clinton has been on full display on the campaign trail. after four events between wisconsin and ohio on thursday, president clinton was in florida on friday, first in lake worth, then speaking to supporters in ft. myers. next st. petersburg outside of tampa before ending in tallahassee. then yesterday, president clinton shifted his focus to virginia, beginning his morning in chesapeake and ending his day in bristow about an hour outside of washington, d.c. he there introduced president obama to a crowd of supporters. before the president made his case to virginia voters. today, the presidents started a four-state double team strategy. in new hampshire in front of
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14,000 supporters, president clinton was moving on to north carolina. because president clinton can't be in two places at once, he let his words speak for him in iowa. he wrote -- >> joinianna marie cox, the toi striking how much this relationship has warmed up in
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the last four years. >> it is. at first, you could tell clinton was being a good soldier. he was going out and doing what he needed to do, wasn't having maybe the best time. over the past year, i think we've seen clinton starting to have the good time he always has, and that turning into, yeah, a bromance between the two of them. like that last rally, think did the high five. they're getting there. >> let's talk about the fact that they are getting along better is a good thing, but clinton and his appeal to a class of voter that the president has not been able to crack, which is white working class voters. >> that's right. we saw that bill clinton is obviously making these appearances in person in these swing states. but i was down in south carolina, and that clinton ad
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where he talks about obama is running nonstop in south carolina, not exactly a swing state. but again, i think if you look at bill clinton, he is a singular figure in american politics. there is no comparable figure in the republican party and he can appeal across the board to latinos, african-americans, college educated white people. and that is why you see him out there front and center and he plays an important role in terms of advising the obama campaign in terms of strategy. november 9 of last year, there was a meeting where bill clinton advised them to frame mitt romney as a severe conservative rather than focusing on his flip-flopping across the issues. and that is what you've seen play out over these last many months. >> anna, the usage of fleetwood
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mac is a nostalgic piece, but the president mentions clinton as a sort -- harkens back to the golden era of america where we had surpluses and everybody was happy. but is a departure of where he's been previously. >> it's true. i think that, yes, like that clinton period people remember fondly. people do not remember the george bush period fondly. his instincts on the stump are obviously just amazing. the speech he gave last night, there's no other politician with the amplitude that clinton has. >> each in that op-ed, you have it ending with a more perfect
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union, going from very sort of hard hitting political tact -- >> he can go from blue grass to opera in a single paragraph. >> republicans are scared of bill clinton. michele bachmann and her campaign sent this note to her supporters. fellow conservatives, no time to explain, i just got word that bill clinton is coming to my district to campaign against me. i need you to support right away. as though he's a hurricane all by himself. >> that's interesting. republicans have in some ways embraced bill clinton, as well. one of the oddest moments was hearing newt gingrich praise bill clinton. i was like, did you live through that presidency where there was such loggerheads? so i think it backfired with
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them embracing bill clinton as a moderate and trying to frame president obama as carter, because that was very much poking the bear, and the bear very much bit back. >> the bear has woken. thank you both for joining me tonight. >> thank you. coming up, more evidence that moderate mitt is a complete myth. here is what he says about women's rights behind closed doors and it is not about the binders. ah. fire bad! just have to fire roast these tomatoes. this is going to give you a head start on your dinner. that seems easier [ female announcer ] new progresso recipe starters. five delicious cooking sauces you combine with fresh ingredients to make amazing home-cooked meals. to make amazing
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i went to a number of women's groups and said can you help us find folks and they brought us binders full of women. >> that was mitt romney touting his record on women during the second debate. here is a 2007 video of mitt
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romney talking about his real record on women when he thought he wasn't being recorded. >> joining me now, my friend and colleague, msnbc's melissa harris-perry. right there, you got it, i vetoed anything to do with choice. there's been a lot of discussion where mitt romney stands on issues critical to women and women's reproductive rights. there you have that video clip that says it all. >> suspect he so much more fascinating and interesting when he doesn't realize he's on camera? it's like the 47% comment. you get this sense of passion and i think as you point out,
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it's really hard to figure out who is mitt romney, this is why the salt lake city gave their endorsement to president obama. so this is mitt romney talking about his moderate self, his self that got along with those democrats in massachusetts and there you get all that fire behind making sure that women don't have the ability to choose. >> i guess my question is, there's been talk about the gender gap. the huffington post says basically that bump among women was the residual effect of the first debate. when you look at the split among unmarried women, the president is womping, which i believe is an official term. but he's leading by 25% among single women. it's married women where romney is ahead by ten points. i don't understand how any women can be in favor of a candidate
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like this. >> the question should always be which women, because women have never operated as a bloc. but it's appalling in this election cycle where what you see what's driving the gender gap is race, youth and as you point out, unmarried status. so if you are married, middle class, white woman, your likelihood of supporting mitt romney is high. the idea that group of people would not see their open interest or their daughter's interest or their sister's, one need not opt in to abortion. it's just that sense of being an adult citizen who can make their own decision. >> and even beyond just the choice question, there is stuff like the lilly ledbetter act, where you have a candidate who cannot answer the question.
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again, women voting against their best interest. >> i'm convinced there's a group of women for whom the so-called privileges of patriarchy are still quite seductive. the why of what you need is a strong man who will give you cover. don't worry, i know you don't want to work, rather than a sense of that full citizen equality, which is about the ability to make choices for yourself. >> that's mirrored so precisely in romney's speech. i love this clip, because i think it says it all. let's listen to what he had to say about work flexibility in the second debate. >> i recognize that if you're going to have women in the workforce, sometimes they need to be more flexible. my chief of staff had two children in school and i can't be here until 7:00 or 8:00 at
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night. so we said fine, let's have a flexible schedule so you can have hours that work for you. >> i recognize if you're going to have women in the workforce, make a concession. >> all parents need flexibility and all humans need flexibility. so fathers would also like to go home to see their kids. going home early is the main thing that you think of when you think of women workers? >> being able to cook. >> i was like, i can't comprehend what that life is, that he is imagining this this woman is leading. i've known a lot of women in my life and this feels so alien to me, that version. >> so of my best friends are women. there are so many confusing questions